Comments on: Feasting it up in the Neolithic http://agro.biodiver.se/2008/09/feasting-it-up-in-the-neolithic/ Crops, animals, wild relatives ... Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:34:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jeremy http://agro.biodiver.se/2008/09/feasting-it-up-in-the-neolithic/comment-page-1/#comment-630445 Jeremy Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:40:13 +0000 http://agro.biodiver.se/?p=2115#comment-630445 The only way to live, really. The only way to live, really.

]]> By: Luigi http://agro.biodiver.se/2008/09/feasting-it-up-in-the-neolithic/comment-page-1/#comment-630246 Luigi Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:48:03 +0000 http://agro.biodiver.se/?p=2115#comment-630246 Alas, not yet. But we live in hope. Alas, not yet. But we live in hope.

]]> By: Jacob http://agro.biodiver.se/2008/09/feasting-it-up-in-the-neolithic/comment-page-1/#comment-630243 Jacob Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:25:56 +0000 http://agro.biodiver.se/?p=2115#comment-630243 No, I don't think so. <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.plantsci.2008.01.016" rel="nofollow">Vaughan et al. (2008)</a> review current opinion to the contrary and have a nice viewpoint of their own. Any reactions to the top models? No, I don’t think so.

Vaughan et al. (2008) review current opinion to the contrary and have a nice viewpoint of their own.

Any reactions to the top models?

]]> By: RH http://agro.biodiver.se/2008/09/feasting-it-up-in-the-neolithic/comment-page-1/#comment-630178 RH Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:57:45 +0000 http://agro.biodiver.se/?p=2115#comment-630178 I thought it was well established now japonica rice was domesticated (in China) before indica (irrespective of how and where indica originated). I thought it was well established now japonica rice was domesticated (in China) before indica (irrespective of how and where indica originated).

]]> By: Cary http://agro.biodiver.se/2008/09/feasting-it-up-in-the-neolithic/comment-page-1/#comment-629278 Cary Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:13:48 +0000 http://agro.biodiver.se/?p=2115#comment-629278 Like Luigi, I'll wait. But it is important to keep in mind that domestication (typically a one/two gene change eliminating the shattering quality of wild plants) and the practice of agriculture with domesticated plants, are two different things. Indeed, both could have happened multiple times, had stop-go patterns, etc. Like Luigi, I’ll wait. But it is important to keep in mind that domestication (typically a one/two gene change eliminating the shattering quality of wild plants) and the practice of agriculture with domesticated plants, are two different things. Indeed, both could have happened multiple times, had stop-go patterns, etc.

]]> By: Luigi http://agro.biodiver.se/2008/09/feasting-it-up-in-the-neolithic/comment-page-1/#comment-628113 Luigi Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:26:12 +0000 http://agro.biodiver.se/?p=2115#comment-628113 Indeed it is counter-intuitive, as the authors of the study admit. But I'll wait to say more until I read the full paper. Indeed it is counter-intuitive, as the authors of the study admit. But I’ll wait to say more until I read the full paper.

]]> By: Brian F-L http://agro.biodiver.se/2008/09/feasting-it-up-in-the-neolithic/comment-page-1/#comment-627937 Brian F-L Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:08:32 +0000 http://agro.biodiver.se/?p=2115#comment-627937 Not sure I follow the last sentence - there seems to be a contradiction there. Anyway, in China last week I was talking to Bao-Rong Lu from Fudan University about rice domestication. The issue in rice is whether indica and japonica rices were domesticated separately or did japonica rice arise from the originally domesticated indica. Bao-Rong has some good evidence for the latter, and therefore a single domestication event. While in discussion the other thought that occurred to me was that normally in phylogenetic studies we work to the rule of parsimony, so why think there should be two domestication events when there need only be one? Not sure I follow the last sentence – there seems to be a contradiction there. Anyway, in China last week I was talking to Bao-Rong Lu from Fudan University about rice domestication. The issue in rice is whether indica and japonica rices were domesticated separately or did japonica rice arise from the originally domesticated indica. Bao-Rong has some good evidence for the latter, and therefore a single domestication event. While in discussion the other thought that occurred to me was that normally in phylogenetic studies we work to the rule of parsimony, so why think there should be two domestication events when there need only be one?

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