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		<title>By: gravity&#8217;s rainbow &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Berry Go Round #14</title>
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		<dc:creator>gravity&#8217;s rainbow &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Berry Go Round #14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at the Agricultural Biodiversity Weblog points out an area where we really need to do some research - These critical 500-700 species will [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Changes in interdependence (i.e. between countries, departments, municipalities) should also be a guide to select not only species but also sites to which &lt;i&gt;priority&lt;/i&gt; species could be shifted. Sites could be just a bit further or upper from actual zones where species are currently located.

Insects can migrate themselves &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pnas.org/content/106/5/1479.abstract&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(as in moths, for example)&lt;/a&gt;; however, I guess that if we develop a model to select the most &quot;useful&quot; zone (nearby, most suitable, etc) for a particular plant species then we will be able to start testing to finally start the &lt;i&gt;assisted migration&lt;/i&gt; process, won&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changes in interdependence (i.e. between countries, departments, municipalities) should also be a guide to select not only species but also sites to which <i>priority</i> species could be shifted. Sites could be just a bit further or upper from actual zones where species are currently located.</p>
<p>Insects can migrate themselves <a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/106/5/1479.abstract" rel="nofollow">(as in moths, for example)</a>; however, I guess that if we develop a model to select the most &#8220;useful&#8221; zone (nearby, most suitable, etc) for a particular plant species then we will be able to start testing to finally start the <i>assisted migration</i> process, won&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Luigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And more from Nigel:&lt;/em&gt;

I agree with the various points made by contributors to the discussion thus far, but in response to your specific question â€“ to do a thorough and appropriate job would require the funding of a grant application â€“ who might fund such an international study? But from legume experience I can think of some obvious species to test

a. &lt;em&gt;Vavilovia formosa&lt;/em&gt; (wild pea), found at about 10 sites in the Middle East all over 1800m always growing on limestone scree

b. &lt;em&gt;Lathyrus belinensis&lt;/em&gt; (wild sweet pea), found at one site only on the Antalya coast of Turkey

c. &lt;em&gt;Vicia hyaeniscyamus&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;V. kalakhensis&lt;/em&gt; found at about 7 and 3 sites respectively with basaltic soil on the Lebanon/Syria border

I am sure we could all come up suggestions for species to experiment with and as the Willis et al. paper and Vernon have pointed out there is a growing literature on the subject. I guess my point is I think we should also be experimenting with this ourselves in the PGR community for the most critical CWR species.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And more from Nigel:</em></p>
<p>I agree with the various points made by contributors to the discussion thus far, but in response to your specific question â€“ to do a thorough and appropriate job would require the funding of a grant application â€“ who might fund such an international study? But from legume experience I can think of some obvious species to test</p>
<p>a. <em>Vavilovia formosa</em> (wild pea), found at about 10 sites in the Middle East all over 1800m always growing on limestone scree</p>
<p>b. <em>Lathyrus belinensis</em> (wild sweet pea), found at one site only on the Antalya coast of Turkey</p>
<p>c. <em>Vicia hyaeniscyamus</em> and <em>V. kalakhensis</em> found at about 7 and 3 sites respectively with basaltic soil on the Lebanon/Syria border</p>
<p>I am sure we could all come up suggestions for species to experiment with and as the Willis et al. paper and Vernon have pointed out there is a growing literature on the subject. I guess my point is I think we should also be experimenting with this ourselves in the PGR community for the most critical CWR species.</p>
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		<title>By: Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each species is unique it is a major mistake to make them forcibly migrate to a different location. They might even die in the new location.  Each species is genetically built to live in particular places if we disturb it we are probably going to  loose it. I say we must take care of the problems that are affect the place that they live in at present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each species is unique it is a major mistake to make them forcibly migrate to a different location. They might even die in the new location.  Each species is genetically built to live in particular places if we disturb it we are probably going to  loose it. I say we must take care of the problems that are affect the place that they live in at present.</p>
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		<title>By: Luigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And from &lt;a href=&quot;http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/CropWildRelativesGroup/message/356&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Suzanne Sharrock&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;

The topic of assisted migration is something that is also being discussed amongst the botanic garden community.  It is obviously a complex subject - and something we don&#039;t have any answers for at present. Just yesterday I attended a debate on the future of botanic gardens  - and it was noted that botanic gardens have an important role to play in providing support (horticultural skills, plant materials, scientific expertise etc.) to efforts to conserve plant communities in the face of climate change.  Given that the focus of botanic gardens is more specifically on conserving wild plants rather than crops - the issue of how wild plants can be conserved when their native habitats are no longer suitable for them is of great concern to botanic gardens. Assisted migration might work for some species - but again, this may not be appropriate in certain situations (old climatically-buffered infertile landscapes being cited as a case in point).

Assisted migration also raises the problem of invasive plants - how can we be sure we will not assist a plant to become invasive in its new habitat?

Anyway, just to say that this is a topic we are interested in - and we would be keen to be involved in future debate and practical actions to resolve some of the unknowns.

Suzanne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And from <a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/CropWildRelativesGroup/message/356" rel="nofollow">Suzanne Sharrock</a>.</em></p>
<p>The topic of assisted migration is something that is also being discussed amongst the botanic garden community.  It is obviously a complex subject &#8211; and something we don&#8217;t have any answers for at present. Just yesterday I attended a debate on the future of botanic gardens  &#8211; and it was noted that botanic gardens have an important role to play in providing support (horticultural skills, plant materials, scientific expertise etc.) to efforts to conserve plant communities in the face of climate change.  Given that the focus of botanic gardens is more specifically on conserving wild plants rather than crops &#8211; the issue of how wild plants can be conserved when their native habitats are no longer suitable for them is of great concern to botanic gardens. Assisted migration might work for some species &#8211; but again, this may not be appropriate in certain situations (old climatically-buffered infertile landscapes being cited as a case in point).</p>
<p>Assisted migration also raises the problem of invasive plants &#8211; how can we be sure we will not assist a plant to become invasive in its new habitat?</p>
<p>Anyway, just to say that this is a topic we are interested in &#8211; and we would be keen to be involved in future debate and practical actions to resolve some of the unknowns.</p>
<p>Suzanne</p>
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		<title>By: Luigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Nigel and Vernon. This would indeed be a contentious, drastic and complicated business. I wonder if we could identify the highest priority candidate species: highly threatened (high altitude, coastline etc), relatively narrow endemic, close relatives of major crops, with a suitable recipient site(s). Then we could in a concrete way explore what would need to be done, and ways of overcoming the inevitable problems. It&#039;s a little difficult to think about this in the abstract, as each species would be different. Any ideas?

Could there be a link to tourism? The &lt;a href=&quot;http://cabiblog.typepad.com/hand_picked/2009/02/galapagos-islands-need-tourism-says-sir-david-attenborough.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Galapagos&lt;/a&gt;, for example, have an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/potd/2006/01/gossypium_darwinii.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;endemic cotton&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Nigel and Vernon. This would indeed be a contentious, drastic and complicated business. I wonder if we could identify the highest priority candidate species: highly threatened (high altitude, coastline etc), relatively narrow endemic, close relatives of major crops, with a suitable recipient site(s). Then we could in a concrete way explore what would need to be done, and ways of overcoming the inevitable problems. It&#8217;s a little difficult to think about this in the abstract, as each species would be different. Any ideas?</p>
<p>Could there be a link to tourism? The <a href="http://cabiblog.typepad.com/hand_picked/2009/02/galapagos-islands-need-tourism-says-sir-david-attenborough.html" rel="nofollow">Galapagos</a>, for example, have an <a href="http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/potd/2006/01/gossypium_darwinii.php" rel="nofollow">endemic cotton</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Luigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And this in from Prof. Vernon Heywood:&lt;/em&gt;

Assisted migration (McLachlan &amp; al. 2006) or assisted colonization
(Hunter 2007;  Hoegh-Guldberg),  is a fairly drastic remedy and like
habitat restoration, a complex and potentially costly venture and
needs to be subject to careful cost-benefit analysis and perhaps used
only in exceptional circumstances.  Moving species into new
environments is, as McLachlan &amp; al. (2006) say, a contentious issue
and may involve considerable risks. It is a complex issue involving
not just scientific, technical and economic but sociological and
ethical considerations. It requires a sound and well thought out
policy framework before it is widely undertaken as a management
response to global change but might be prove to be appropriate in a
number of high priority species such as CWR of major crops.

Vernon

References:

Hunter, M.L. 2007. Climate change and moving species: furthering the
debate on assisted colonization. Conservation Biology 21: 1356â€“1358.

Hoegh-Guldberg, O., L. Hughes, McIntyre, S., Lindenmayer, D.B.,
Parmesan, C.,  Possingham, H.P. &amp; Thomas, C. D. 2008. Assisted
Colonization and Rapid Climate Change. Science  321: 345 â€“ 346.

McLachlan, J. S., J. J. Hellmann, and M. W. Schwartz. 2007. A
framework for debate of assisted migration in an era of climate
change. Conservation Biology 21: 297-302.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And this in from Prof. Vernon Heywood:</em></p>
<p>Assisted migration (McLachlan &#038; al. 2006) or assisted colonization<br />
(Hunter 2007;  Hoegh-Guldberg),  is a fairly drastic remedy and like<br />
habitat restoration, a complex and potentially costly venture and<br />
needs to be subject to careful cost-benefit analysis and perhaps used<br />
only in exceptional circumstances.  Moving species into new<br />
environments is, as McLachlan &#038; al. (2006) say, a contentious issue<br />
and may involve considerable risks. It is a complex issue involving<br />
not just scientific, technical and economic but sociological and<br />
ethical considerations. It requires a sound and well thought out<br />
policy framework before it is widely undertaken as a management<br />
response to global change but might be prove to be appropriate in a<br />
number of high priority species such as CWR of major crops.</p>
<p>Vernon</p>
<p>References:</p>
<p>Hunter, M.L. 2007. Climate change and moving species: furthering the<br />
debate on assisted colonization. Conservation Biology 21: 1356â€“1358.</p>
<p>Hoegh-Guldberg, O., L. Hughes, McIntyre, S., Lindenmayer, D.B.,<br />
Parmesan, C.,  Possingham, H.P. &#038; Thomas, C. D. 2008. Assisted<br />
Colonization and Rapid Climate Change. Science  321: 345 â€“ 346.</p>
<p>McLachlan, J. S., J. J. Hellmann, and M. W. Schwartz. 2007. A<br />
framework for debate of assisted migration in an era of climate<br />
change. Conservation Biology 21: 297-302.</p>
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