Etruscan cattle

A new study tries to disentangle the mystery of the origin of the Etruscans by looking at the genetics of the cattle currently found in the area of central Italy which takes its name from that ancient civilization, Tuscany (or is it the other way around?). It turns out that, unlike cattle from other parts of Italy, cattle from the Etruscan lands shows genetic affinities with Anatolian breeds. According to the Italian researchers, the Etruscans came to Italy from Turkey, and they did so by sea. I wonder if it will be possible to recover DNA from the remains of ancient Etruscan cattle…

14 Replies to “Etruscan cattle”

  1. As we have known for millenia (even Herodotus knew), Italians are really just closeted Turks. So pour yourself some mint tea, you pathetic tuscan racists, and smoke a hookah cuz yo mama’s from Istanbul. That’s right, you heard me. Stick that in your eye.

  2. Then you’re my kinda Italian! Besides, the “Turks” spread so far out of Central Asia during the Ottoman Empire that we’re probably all related to Mao Tse Tung, for pete’s sakes.

    Let’s get a grip, people. All these grant-wasting genetic studies are just going to prove that… drumroll please… we are all related to each other! Yes, humans have always bred like bunnies in all parts of the globe and who doesn’t like to do a little travelling too, now and then? Family vacation, anyone? Why should Etruscans be any different?

    What I need to understand about all this is how I can get in on this gene-study scam so that I can make money on grants too.

    Ugh. All this genetic talk is making me dizzy. Waiter! Waiter! Give me some mint tea and a hookah.

  3. Hello Italian brothers and sisters,

    I do not think all Italians are Etruscans, because Romans were not Etruscans at all. However, there must be some roots of Etruscans which even survive today in Italy.

    I do understand your point of view of being afraid to have bound with Turks. We are barbarians according to you, or even some creatures which you do not understand. To tell you the truth, ou look the same over from here :) I m not trying to mess things up, I am trying to talk about prejiduces, misunderstanding and mis-communication. Your point of view to world is different and so ours. That s the main difference.

    Anyway… Etruscans seem to be Turkish oriented, just like Huns and Hungarians, and just like Summerians. Well should I be amazd of that? No! Yes, I am glad, but you should know, Turkish history and “culture” is bigger and larger and deeper than you think, than your scientists and historians tell. But, whenever something is said that way, I can imagine Western people smile and turn back and leave. And, believe me that s a better reaction than the Russian girls reacted me whom I met in Romania back in ’92. They were shocked when I told them that I am a Turk. That day’s morning I witneesed two Romanian girls scream and escape when my other two friens told they were Turks :)

    But, just for a moment of time, what if I tell you there is a man who can read all Etruscan writings in Turkish? And, if that is true, think what will happen! It will be the same as if some good aliens came to visit earth with a great ship, all human kind, as you mean and bet the western community EU and Americans, will be shocked with the magnificient technology and culture of the aliens. Because, you bet you are the absolute civilization with our Renaissenca, Reform, Industrilization and even the EU being itself!

    I think, it is a taboo for western scientists to make a deep study in origin of Turks. I believe in that. Because, our earlist findins of writings go back to only 6th century AD. There are Orkun stones of three Turkish kings in Central Asia. But it is really interesting that the writing language is a perfect one which should go back 3000 years then. So, I wonder where are all other writins which should be dated back to 24th century BC. Noone has any thing on the hand. So, I ask, is it a kind of joke? Should’t there be any archelogical findings for historic Turkish written language for that long period of time? Where is all that staff?

    Who is hiding what?

    I think you go the point.

    You can contact me borabingol@hotmail.com on MSN.

    Good be with you brothers and sisters.

    Bora

  4. Dears

    As many researchers and scientist have been trying to figure out whether Etruscans originally related with Turks or not. And the finding was according to the researchers and scientist YES Etruscan people related with TURKS and this is approved by DNA test model. So as you european people always saying there is no need to argue upon a scientific base information.

    Is there any comment upon my point of view?

    Besides this is not a big deal… if you wondering that are there any other similar stories like Etruscan people? The answer is simply YES. There are some people for example some part of Finland (Turku Region). Some part of Bulgaria and Hungary, in addition Indian People from America Continent… just google it then you can find the related scientific information about the dilemma

    Best regards

    From Istanbul

  5. ETRUSCAN word is combined from > AT_TU_RI_KI_SI_NE
    is a pure root-turkish word ,… very shortly, indeed :
    AT means > the far…
    TU_RI_KI means > turks ….
    SI means > a place …
    NE means > new …..
    S0 ATTURIKISINE no doubtly means :
    The new-land-of-turks-who-came-from-the-far…….

    Not suprisingly, ITALY is also originated from root-turkish words..
    ITALY means > OD_TA_LI_YA , again very shortly :
    OD means > forest,
    TA means > far away,
    LI means > lighted,.. ie.modern..
    YA means > life, living ..
    So, ITALY means, no-doubtly :
    a-foresty-land-at-far-with-modern-living..

    ps. todays turkish is also originated from root-turkish..

    love, regards and peace to everybody…..

  6. dear soley and everybody,
    my infos all based to advanced and approved conclusions, following the studies on thousands of related sources, since a.10 years …..
    Some U.S , British and German Universities or Institutions are stepping on the same subject, keeping their final achievments yet confidential, I guess…. red-Indians, Sumerians, Phonecians words are probably their main sources….
    rgds..

  7. for a turkish person like me this study is shocking.. it could either mean the etruscans have some turkish roots or that turkish people living in turkey are not turkish at all and are a product of mixed non-greek local anatolian people.. this study should have included other turkish peoples living in central asia.. only when they find the same similarities, i think, it could mean the etruscans are propably from far asia… and if they find such similarity then the whole turkish history should be rewritten.. what the hell were they doing in anatolia 3000 years ago? where did they come from? same questions were asked for the sumerians, in whose language there is clear evidence of altaic elements.. however the idea that some nomadic people(were they really?) came from asia and then suddenly gained the seaskills enabling them to travel such a long distance to settle in italy is a bit fantasy…. and if they were living in anatolia for a very long time where are the artifacts? where are the remnants of a supposed turkish-altaic-nomadic(whatever) culture in anatolia that have altaic culture elements in them.. if of course they came from central asia…. i think same population genetic studies should be made to make clear where the anatolian turkish people really came from..and why in earth do we look so different from each other..just a matter of mixture locally? and this is not for racist bulls..t..
    but what is a turk ?

    1. hey alito
      there are a lot of evidences everywhere, although most of the things in central asia which is a mystery since it was controlled by soviets until 91, and in all that time soviets cleared most of the culture and history of all the people in asia to make a unity between nations(now most of the people in the area called anton, sergey or natalia and so on), and surprisingly i was in altay mountains 2 years ago, we accidentally found a petrogliph in the middle of a forest, they are everywhere, you can go to a small village and there will be always a man who ask money from you to show those stones, also there are these rock statues called kamenny baba s or balbals that russians say we dont know what it is actually but they are kind of idols or grave stones thats what i think in the first sight, also i have seen a lot of places where it seems to be like tumulus, i tell you mi amigo, it wont be a surprise to me to find things like machi pichu in central asia, just there has to be serious archeological researches but russia would never let you do that, since they are trying to keep all those autonomous rebuplics out of order!!
      it is the same in maoan china where all the uighurs are slaughtered in present time, and china doesnt allow anyone to work on those tarum mummies, or the pyramid like tumulus in the western part,(actually china is a big phenomenon where there is no connection of races living there)the real reason is that these governments doesnt want people living there to find evidences that they are the indigenious people of the area which give them the right to shout for their independence according to the international laws which are accepted after 19th century and WWI. alicim please go and try to read or find information before you make criticism, just because you got that stupid fashion of the new generation who criticise everything about turks, i dont say that they were the bwanas of the ancient world, but they had many things to share and show to other cultures, for me it s just a hobby or nostalgy for me see these things as seeing the magyar or the aztecs, since the idea of turanism is out of the way!! and as well what the fuck you have a problem with 3000 years, it takes only 3 generations to become masters in the sea, our magnificent technology has only 300 hundred years of development and this computer that i use is almost younger than a century, there are many evidences that we had many different kind of developments in different areas in the past but time is always changing and the circumferences as well. what i advice you is be open to news and researches, and if you want make a criticism do it for productive or creative things, discrediting your own history would create an atmoshere nothing than disunity, look at all nations and see how they are curious and ardent to find clues of their history even for others and even your culture(i dont know any turkish archeologist who are really in to it and i dont know why?),so dont questionize your culture with stupid arguements but go on for ideologies or things that you see which are wrong, or the politics which are going on in your country or erdogan who is going to knock out turkey soon.
      my friends this world is a mystery
      and everyday we learn a new thing
      so we should not have constant ideas and be open to new findings because we know nothing about it, the earth and maybe the universe is full of stories and surprises which we will see in the future….

  8. Ali… Who do you think Troyans are? The “real” history is really different than “the written” history when you put a scientific approach.

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